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		<title>Comment on Cookie Laws &#8211; What it means for your business. by JasonD</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/cookie-laws-what-it-means-for-your-business-2011-05-09/comment-page-1#comment-2454</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 13:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Compendius.

I dont believe you should worry yourself about 3rd party sites you link to, as long as they are consistent in your blogroll etc, but you should think about your advertising partners, how they use cookies and also if you keep any logs, logfiles, analytic packages or related.

The decision what to say and where is yours and yours alone, but I would suggest (on the basis that I am not a lawyer etc) that you place in your privacy policy, which you should have clearly linked from all pages, that you:



&lt;blockquote&gt;
Do not store any information or data about your visit. We do not store logfiles nor do we use any 3rd party analytics companies.

We do work with Advertiser X who details on http://advertiserx.com/privacy.html how they all forms of data. If you do not wish advertiser X to do this with your visit then their opt out page is at http://advertiserX.com/optout.html. We are recompensed for any advertising that is shown on this site.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Something like the above, adapted obviously for your specific use, would in my (non legal) opinion bring you to a more compliant state.

The choice is yours of course :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Compendius.</p>
<p>I dont believe you should worry yourself about 3rd party sites you link to, as long as they are consistent in your blogroll etc, but you should think about your advertising partners, how they use cookies and also if you keep any logs, logfiles, analytic packages or related.</p>
<p>The decision what to say and where is yours and yours alone, but I would suggest (on the basis that I am not a lawyer etc) that you place in your privacy policy, which you should have clearly linked from all pages, that you:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Do not store any information or data about your visit. We do not store logfiles nor do we use any 3rd party analytics companies.</p>
<p>We do work with Advertiser X who details on <a href="http://advertiserx.com/privacy.html" rel="nofollow">http://advertiserx.com/privacy.html</a> how they all forms of data. If you do not wish advertiser X to do this with your visit then their opt out page is at <a href="http://advertiserX.com/optout.html" rel="nofollow">http://advertiserX.com/optout.html</a>. We are recompensed for any advertising that is shown on this site.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Something like the above, adapted obviously for your specific use, would in my (non legal) opinion bring you to a more compliant state.</p>
<p>The choice is yours of course <img src='http://jason.sh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Cookie Laws &#8211; What it means for your business. by compendius</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/cookie-laws-what-it-means-for-your-business-2011-05-09/comment-page-1#comment-2453</link>
		<dc:creator>compendius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 10:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, except I need clarification on one point...

I run a website that has no cookie use at all, so a user visiting my site will not have a cookie downloaded to their client...all good so far...

I host an advert which I get paid for. This advert, IF clicked on, will redirect a user to the advertiser&#039;s website and place several cookies on the user&#039;s client. This is simply because the external website does use cookies. 

I have a blog roll which links to other blogs I like. Some of these blogs use cookies, so if a visitor clicks on on the the blogroll links a cookie may get downloaded to the user&#039;s client.

In short, am I responsible for cookies delivered to a users machine simply due to the fact I link to websites that do use cookies? 

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, except I need clarification on one point&#8230;</p>
<p>I run a website that has no cookie use at all, so a user visiting my site will not have a cookie downloaded to their client&#8230;all good so far&#8230;</p>
<p>I host an advert which I get paid for. This advert, IF clicked on, will redirect a user to the advertiser&#8217;s website and place several cookies on the user&#8217;s client. This is simply because the external website does use cookies. </p>
<p>I have a blog roll which links to other blogs I like. Some of these blogs use cookies, so if a visitor clicks on on the the blogroll links a cookie may get downloaded to the user&#8217;s client.</p>
<p>In short, am I responsible for cookies delivered to a users machine simply due to the fact I link to websites that do use cookies? </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cookie Laws &#8211; What it means for your business. by JasonD</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/cookie-laws-what-it-means-for-your-business-2011-05-09/comment-page-1#comment-2452</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 08:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The change is law is happening Europe wide as it is an amendment to European legislation but each European country will implement in their own laws in their own way. This post speaks specifically about the UK implementation but there will be similar implementations throughout Europe.

My understanding, on the basis I am not a lawyer &amp; this is not legal advice (IE I am informed rather than than knowing) is that it doesn&#039;t matter where your server is but it does matter where your company that runs the website / server is based. 

Let&#039;s look at a couple of scenarios:
If you run a UK registered business, with visitors from the UK even with a server that is based in the US, then this does apply to you
If you run a business registered in a differing EU location (say Germany, but it could be any EU country), wherever the server may be based, with visitors from the EU then you should deploy the German  implementation of this legislation.
If you run any EU business then  &lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/kfodJp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Lisbon Treaty &lt;/a&gt; allows you to deliver your goods and services to other member states without having to cover off more &quot;red tape&quot;

If though you are a UK based business and only ever get visitors from say the US then this legislation arguably does not apply to you, although there are changes occuring in the US that are very similar to this so it would be wise to comply with this legislation and/or US versions of the same goals.

Ultimately the location of the server does not &quot;directly&quot; have a bearing on whether you should or should not comply but where your business is formally based does have a bearing as does which countries your visitors come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The change is law is happening Europe wide as it is an amendment to European legislation but each European country will implement in their own laws in their own way. This post speaks specifically about the UK implementation but there will be similar implementations throughout Europe.</p>
<p>My understanding, on the basis I am not a lawyer &amp; this is not legal advice (IE I am informed rather than than knowing) is that it doesn&#8217;t matter where your server is but it does matter where your company that runs the website / server is based. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at a couple of scenarios:<br />
If you run a UK registered business, with visitors from the UK even with a server that is based in the US, then this does apply to you<br />
If you run a business registered in a differing EU location (say Germany, but it could be any EU country), wherever the server may be based, with visitors from the EU then you should deploy the German  implementation of this legislation.<br />
If you run any EU business then  <a href="http://bit.ly/kfodJp" rel="nofollow">the Lisbon Treaty </a> allows you to deliver your goods and services to other member states without having to cover off more &#8220;red tape&#8221;</p>
<p>If though you are a UK based business and only ever get visitors from say the US then this legislation arguably does not apply to you, although there are changes occuring in the US that are very similar to this so it would be wise to comply with this legislation and/or US versions of the same goals.</p>
<p>Ultimately the location of the server does not &#8220;directly&#8221; have a bearing on whether you should or should not comply but where your business is formally based does have a bearing as does which countries your visitors come from.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cookie Laws &#8211; What it means for your business. by lisbonapartments</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisbonapartments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 11:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this apply if you have a business registered in Europe but your website/server is located in USA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this apply if you have a business registered in Europe but your website/server is located in USA?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SEO Job Vacancy &#8211; Come work with me and &#8220;The Lawyer&#8221;!!!! by Earl Grey</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/seo-job-vacancy-come-work-with-me-and-the-lawyer-2009-06-10/comment-page-1#comment-2449</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work for a northerner like you?
You must be joking!

Good luck with the hunt though and whoever you choose should be proud to work under you.
Its one of those once in a lifetime opportunitys for someone.

Thankfully not me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work for a northerner like you?<br />
You must be joking!</p>
<p>Good luck with the hunt though and whoever you choose should be proud to work under you.<br />
Its one of those once in a lifetime opportunitys for someone.</p>
<p>Thankfully not me <img src='http://jason.sh/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The Guardian Newspaper (and me) on Comment Spam by JasonD</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/the-guardian-newspaper-and-me-on-comment-spam-2009-05-28/comment-page-1#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pancentric.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pancentric&lt;/a&gt; are a marketing agency based in South London. I would call them small players in the search space but others may disagree. I am suprised that any effective search marketing company would use such actions for a client without fully explaining risks to their client.

For me it isn&#039;t a question of morals, although spamming someone elses&#039; blog is arguably immoral and &quot;graffiti like&quot; but it is a question of honesty and professionalism with your client. 

If we undertake A, it may have this uplift in business but it comes with these risks.
If we undertake B, it may have a lower uplift in business but it comes with reduced risks
If we undertake C, it may have tremendous uplift in business but comes with huge risks.

Is how the discussions with their client should have gone but seems as if they didn&#039;t. Even if they did have those discussions the results are effectively the complete opposite of that which they were aiming for. NO rise in rankings and no good will created from the actions - the opposite in fact after the Guardian article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pancentric.com/" rel="nofollow">Pancentric</a> are a marketing agency based in South London. I would call them small players in the search space but others may disagree. I am suprised that any effective search marketing company would use such actions for a client without fully explaining risks to their client.</p>
<p>For me it isn&#8217;t a question of morals, although spamming someone elses&#8217; blog is arguably immoral and &#8220;graffiti like&#8221; but it is a question of honesty and professionalism with your client. </p>
<p>If we undertake A, it may have this uplift in business but it comes with these risks.<br />
If we undertake B, it may have a lower uplift in business but it comes with reduced risks<br />
If we undertake C, it may have tremendous uplift in business but comes with huge risks.</p>
<p>Is how the discussions with their client should have gone but seems as if they didn&#8217;t. Even if they did have those discussions the results are effectively the complete opposite of that which they were aiming for. NO rise in rankings and no good will created from the actions &#8211; the opposite in fact after the Guardian article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Guardian Newspaper (and me) on Comment Spam by AndyW</title>
		<link>http://jason.sh/the-guardian-newspaper-and-me-on-comment-spam-2009-05-28/comment-page-1#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 10:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting article

Who are Pancentric, are they big players in their field?

Were you surprised that they were engaging in such link building methods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting article</p>
<p>Who are Pancentric, are they big players in their field?</p>
<p>Were you surprised that they were engaging in such link building methods?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightening piece of work - Doug’s Mouthpiece - Droug.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>find more customers &#187; Top Search Engine Results Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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